I wish I didn't think I was too cool for Pokemon in the ds era. It is a little slow and I don't find the artwork to be as charming as the old games but other than that this is very good. Cant wait to try the other ds games.
imo, overrated as fuck. for as much as this fixed in d/p, it didn't fix the sinnoh being one of the worst regions to traverse in the whole series, the gen 4 pokemon designs are probably some of the weakest barring a select few, and having the ABSOLUTE worst HM uses in the entire series (which is already terrible in on itself), and the game is still laughably slow. i personally believe gen 4 would be one of the weakest gens if it didn't have the physical/special split and HG/SS in it. i can play gen 2, 3, 5, and even 7 over and over again but despite what platinum does to fix d/p, i find myself quitting after only 2 gyms every time i try to give it another try. it's a massive shame because i have probably the most nostalgia and time played with gen 4 as a kid, specifically d/p/pt, but as i get older i find myself disliking it more and more...
What is so bad about the traversal? You can get around the entire map in like 5 minutes.
Hard disagree on the mon designs, I think most of the gen 4 mons are peak. Just look at lucario, togekiss, luxray, staraptor, garchomp, all of the starters, weavil, etc… all sick as fuck and my favorites of the whole series. Giratina-O? Come on
I agree the HMs are annoying as hell but at least you get bibarel
I guess the game is slow but all of them are from this era
Biggest criticism I can level at this game is that it’s too easy but it also has one of the harder E4s
I’ve replayed this far more than any other Pokémon game
going around the routes and caves always just feel more like a chore than fun to me - really hate exploring them. there are a lot of good pokemon designs, i love all you listed plus dusknoir, but a lot just feel so bland to me.
hm problem is more because you have to have your dedicated HM user PLUS using HMs on main party mons i may not wanna use them on. mount coronet is horrific, you need so many TMs for a MANDITORY dungeon. i love gen 3 and it can have frustrating HM issues too, but luckily you get to a point where you can just box a mon. plus gen 3 HMs are much better than a lot of gen 4 HMs in terms of being good and viable in battles (i've never really had issues with surf and strength, for example)
yea the slowness effects the whole gen horrible and it's frustrating. i love hg/ss but it does effect those games too
easiness thing doesn't bug me too much, i think personally this game has one of the easier E4's outside of cynthia having a competitively viable team lol
idk, i just can't fully get into d/p/pt. i really really wanna retry platinum at some point but again, i end up putting it down too fast because i just lose interest. maybe on a proper replay, i'll feel different, but it's just hard to push myself to keep playing
people act like this fixed everything wrong with diamond and pearl when this still has a lot of the same issues, albeit on a marginally smaller scale. like the gameplay loop and exploration still feels like a chore and it still runs like piss. if it wasnt for the aesthetics and nostalgia of this game people would not view it as highly as they do lol
Hard disagree on the mon designs, I think most of the gen 4 mons are peak. Just look at lucario, togekiss, luxray, staraptor, garchomp, all of the starters, weavil, etc… all sick as fuck and my favorites of the whole series. Giratina-O? Come on
I agree the HMs are annoying as hell but at least you get bibarel
I guess the game is slow but all of them are from this era
Biggest criticism I can level at this game is that it’s too easy but it also has one of the harder E4s
I’ve replayed this far more than any other Pokémon game
hm problem is more because you have to have your dedicated HM user PLUS using HMs on main party mons i may not wanna use them on. mount coronet is horrific, you need so many TMs for a MANDITORY dungeon. i love gen 3 and it can have frustrating HM issues too, but luckily you get to a point where you can just box a mon. plus gen 3 HMs are much better than a lot of gen 4 HMs in terms of being good and viable in battles (i've never really had issues with surf and strength, for example)
yea the slowness effects the whole gen horrible and it's frustrating. i love hg/ss but it does effect those games too
easiness thing doesn't bug me too much, i think personally this game has one of the easier E4's outside of cynthia having a competitively viable team lol
idk, i just can't fully get into d/p/pt. i really really wanna retry platinum at some point but again, i end up putting it down too fast because i just lose interest. maybe on a proper replay, i'll feel different, but it's just hard to push myself to keep playing