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(I'm going to edit this profile... one day. I'm really not that cranky.)*

Formula for a high rating on RYM:

1. You are a metal band.
2. You are a (black) rapper.
3. You have not sold many albums or had many hits. Ideally, a few people in a thousand would recognize your band name. Exceptions: "classic" artists (whose virtues, real or imagined, have been pounded into your head since birth) get a major free pass.
4. May be considered an addendum to (3.): your music is as difficult and non-poppy as possible. Drone metal, clanking machine noises, or 15 minute screaming metal dirges are prime examples of this principle.

Unlike some around here, I don't think I get hipster points for rating things low. Most of the music I listen to in the first place is obtained because I think I'll like it to some degree. Why it should be otherwise is a mystery to me, unless (for example) you review music professionally and are routinely exposed to 1-2 star albums. Or perhaps you just like wasting your time listening to crap.

Oh, by the way. I'd really appreciate it if you... people would stop underrating albums from the last few years. It throws a monkey wrench into everything. For albums from 2008 and especially more recently, I have to mentally adjust the RYM score to get the "real" score (this involves adding at least .2 to recent releases). When a 3.60 album can be in the year's top 100, sometimes even top 50 or higher, you know there's a problem. FFS, this site is actually becoming almost useless for assessing newer albums because of this problem. For recent albums, the ratings are now only useful in assessing how an album from a particular year compares to others released that year; comparisons to previous years (which don't experience the rating deflation) are neigh impossible.

*(Despite the shortcomings of the site, this place has a lot going for it, and it's not like I'm a total outlier re: what I wrote above. For the music ratings, less so the film ratings, RYM has been a useful reference for when I want to get an idea on the probable quality of something: just gotta keep those shortcomings and limitations in mind.)

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  • Watchful_Eye 2013-09-12 21:58:16.859588+00
    I am not sure if it would be good to solve the problem in that way, because it just reflects the way people rate, so if people say that todays music is worse than 30 years ago, we have to accept it. You cannot remove this bias in a strict mathematical way, because it is just the way (many) people think. But I agree that it would be interesting as an additional feature.

    The thing I would change in the first place is that the rating is more median - and less average-orientated. That would not equal the problem out, but at least reduce the influence of powervoters and people who download masses of albums and rate them 0.5 if they dont like them. I think, that does concern popular modern albums in the first place.

    Do you know the album "Machine Gun" by Peter Brötzmann? That is the most polarizing album I can think of - *really* brutal free jazz which sounds completely random at times (at least I think so). "Machine Gun" has an average rating of 3.88 and about 1200 ratings. With this score it would be easily on first place in 2013. Right now, only 17 people rated it with 0,5 points. While it would be easy to guess what would happen if it would be released this year and start off high in the charts - people who are not even interested in Free Jazz would listen to it and it easily had hundreds of 0.5 ratings until it would land somewhere in the mediocre middle. I often see that new albums start (deservingly) very high and fall in the following weeks and months, because so many people listen and rate it without really being used to comparable stuff. (And it is completely okay doing so, since this site it about discovering new music, dont get me wrong.)

    By the way, I started a thread about that topic in the forums about a year ago, maybe you would like to read it, there are some clever posts I guess: http://rateyourmusic.com/b...board_id=1&
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  • Fabro10 2014-03-10 18:22:18.464721+00
    LOL. It's curious to find someone here who actually knows that Uruguay is a country. It's quite small, you know? No, we don't have mini-chavez, but I don't really know what do you mean when you say "Chavez". Venezuelan news say he is a hero, you know him as some kind of Hitler (as far as I know). Here we don't give a fuck, and the ones who do don't know what to think. Here socialism is in power for the moment but it has nothing to do with what you may think. Look at this guy:
    http://pormipatria.org/wp-...se-Mujica.4.jpg
    He is the president, believe it or not.

    This is not so different from Europe. Maybe a cheaper version or something like that. I love my country. So, where do you live, man? Sorry for my english.

    I'm adding you. I dig your taste.
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  • resist_retreat 2014-05-14 17:23:35.441778+00
    Hi! Thanks for adding me. Interesting point about ratings. I've long thought that there's an opposite movement as well, where "acknowledged classics" are consistently rated higher precisely because their reputation precedes them - it's easier to rate, I don't know, Abbey Road 5 rather than 4.5 if you're in doubt, or 4.5 rather than 4. I dunno, for me it's just becoming harder to find newer stuff that has the spirit I seek - perhaps that's just old age, or the nature of the times. But your point is well made.
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  • resist_retreat 2014-05-19 19:43:57.802574+00
    What you say about 2007 as some kind of cut-off point is interesting, because I think it takes that kind of time for the merits/demerits of records to be more or less determined collectively. Music does take time, and it's always interesting to find ratings of my own that I feel obliged to change.

    Actually, looking at the ratings and the charts from the 1970's and 1980's, it's pretty clear that a fair few (somewhat) highly regarded records would probably have been rated quite low at the time, while some incredibly obscure records are now highly regarded (some for no good reason other than that they're obscure it sometimes seems, but there you are).

    Thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to give them a try.

    Oh, and glad you appreciate the reviews.
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  • Tropylium 2014-07-19 20:16:00.250916+00
    You're welcome. Yes, I wonder myself why progsynth's so obscure around here. Tho probably it's a demographics problem for the most part — the genre's average fans are middle-aged Europeans, while RYM is dominated by teenagers~twentysomethings from America. Still, given the recent underground fame of Oneohtrix Point Never, Motion Sickness of Time Travel, Zombi/Moore/Majeure, Panabrite, etc. I'd have expected that to be getting better by now. But I think these American bands and record stores/companies are also only really aware of the 70s classics, not all the stuff that's been done in Europe since then.
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  • catalogueatolic 2014-07-20 19:22:45.358594+00
    oh boy here we go, haha
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  • Tropylium 2014-07-23 14:46:17.582353+00
    "Yes", "no", and "checking it right now", respectively.

    Plausibly this could be TD yeah, though I suspect some other score producers have their fingers in as well. It's a much more restrained track than I'm used to coming from TD in the recent years (not in terms of the mood as much as the density of the arrangement).
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  • pjflynn 2017-07-08 12:41:51.027815+00
    Rate your favourite David Bowie songs for my fans chart!

    Hey, I got bored so decided to create a 'RATE YOUR: greatest David Bowie songs' list.

    Give me your top 10 in order to be scored as follows: Your position 1 song gets 5 points; positions 2 to 4 get 4 points each; positions 5 to 7 get 3 points each; positions 8 to 10 get 2 points each. 

    I’ll add these to the running grand total, and will update the list very regularly so check back for updates. 

    Hope to hear from you!
    Regards
    Peter
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