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Fallout 2

30 September 1998
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A tribal villager from Arroyo is appointed as the Chosen One, whose quest is to find the Garden of Eden Creation Kit and save their village from declining into oblivion. However, their journey is overshadowed by the shade of a mysterious pre-War organization called the Enclave, who have been taking humans prisoner across the Wasteland for nefarious purposes.
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Fallout 2 is A Bit Overrated
While some people have a tendency (in part rightfully) to criticize games like Fallout 3 and 4 to no end, the problem is that they often ignore Fallout 2's own flaws in the process, holding it up as some perfect idol of gaming.

Fallout 2 is a good game, but it has a lot of serious issues, from the skill system that has numerous skills which are completely useless to the story and world-building issues in basically anywhere in the game that isn't New Reno.

I'm a youtuber that made a humorous and hopefully informative video that explores Fallout 2's flaws in further detail, and which tries to argue that old games and modern games can be both great experiences while also being flawed at the same time. Give this video a watch if you're interested.
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One of the best pc games of all time
This is one of the best games ive ever played. A couple months back i played Fallout 1 and was amazed by the story the game mechanics and the overall product of the game. Now you take all that and bring it over to the sequel Fallout 2 but this time you make one of the best stories in video game history and it turns out absolutely fantastic.

It is of course very familiar too Fallout 1 in lots of ways, gameplay wise they are practically the same, save get a crit save get a crit save miss reload and get a crit. It works for both games just fine. I like to compare Fallout 1 to the godfather which makes the sequel Godfather part 2, story wise this makes sense too since you explore what happens after the chosen one destroys the super mutants.

I finished the game on lvl 20 and i specialized in laser weapons having over 100% for a majority of the game but thats not to say i had a very rocky start too the game. the first 8 hours i learned the ropes and it was a bit tough, the first weapons in the game are either melee or a gun/machine gun and i knew from Fallout 1 that laser weapons are usually the meta atleast those gun have high damage output so i put my special attributes to accomodate for laser weapons and when i levled i put skill points into laser guns which had the offset of not affecting my gun which made it much harder to kill even basic enemies like rats since i had small guns on about 30% for the entire game and laser weapons on over 70% from very early levels like 1-5. This made the game a bit frustrating but as soon as i got a laser weapon it was pretty much GG.

Now the game isnt all sunshine and rainbows. I had many problems but the most glaring problems are still here from Fallout 1. The RNG mechanics is arguably the worst in gaming history because there is no consistancy. Lets take Morrowind for example, a perfect game with just as much emphasis on RNG, However you could get AMAZING rng odds by just leveling luck and fixing your fatigue problem, that increased your chances 100x and usually fixed all RNG related problems so you dont have to reload every fight. However in fallout 2 there is no such thing such as leveling too ease your pain. Since i specalized in laser weapons i had over 200% on laser and i could still miss 95% shots which is just insane. I used a laser rifle before i got the alien blaster and i kid you not. I got a random encounter which in and of itself is another problem from Fallout 1 where random encounters in the desert get really annoying after a while. Anyways i had a rifle and i was facing 1 big deathclaw and 4 small. I AM DEAD SERIOUS when i say i missed 4 95% shots. I reloaded every shot since it was complete bs. The odds of missing 4 95% shots is 0.05 squared 4 = 0.00000625 %. I had luck 10 so i guess i was REALLY LUCKY FOR THIS TOO HAPPEN.

Too summarize the RNG in this game i can say that it has no consistancey, you can have the best items in the game at level 50 and still get 1 shot by a flaming gecko. Which can make the game incredibly frustrating. However it is offset by when it actually does work it feels amazing. It feels like the game always works against you so when you actually beat it its the most amazing feeling. No its not stockholm syndrome it just feels good to roll a 257 alien blaster shot and sending an alien into oblivion.


However the game is also forgiven for the number of exploits and ways to get items. The developers tried to fix the problems of marketing in Fallout 1 by basically making it so despite having barter on 100%, if a merchant sold an item for 12k you would only be able to sell it back to him for 4k. This did sound like a great fix and id say it worked however they just had to add San Francisco into the game. Basically the 2 merchants in chinatown can be pickpocketed with as low as 15% sneak (what i had all game) meaning you basically have an infinate source of money. However its not like this felt unfair, remember the RNG is most of the time bs in this game so having power armor should really only be fair.

Now you cant really blame the developers for this.
These exploits happen because the game is so big you cant control absolutely everything and because the player can pretty much do anything and play the game the complete opposite way the developers intended its easy to find exploits like infinate money or xp farms because of the way the developers programmed. But if its something i learned from morrowind its "too op makes the game less fun", you figure out to balance the exploits and gameplay eventually atleast i did. Which luckly kept me from just quitting the game.


Now apart from the gameplay the strongest side too the game is easily the story, its what i would consider one of the greatest in video game history. Its quite easy too follow not too complicated and personally its just right for me. After the events of Fallout 1 the chosen one travels to a village north called arroya some tribal village idk and decades later the tribe starts too die so they send out a new chosen one (the player) too find the holy geck which should be sitting in a vault. GECK is a device meant too bring life and its even shown in the intro of the game. The coolest part however is that 4 villages from Fallout 1 can be found in Fallout 2 and these are some of the best locations as well. like the NCR going from basically a sand city to a crazy city is so amazing too see because you were the one who helped shady sands prosper in Fallout 1. Finding the military base sent shivers down my spine since i knew all about the FEV virus and it was very nostalgic and fun too explore the area again. Anyways once you find the geck it turns out the bad guys from this game the enclave stole all the people from your village so you gotta get them back and meet with the "president of the usa" aka leader of the enclave and he talks about the great big secret plan the enclave has. Im not gonna spoil the story since i personally love it but i recommend you experience the game for yourself too find out.

The characters are lovable except for the bitch leader in vault city but even she has a story, and thats really what i love. All characters are very fleshed out and given a backround. Sure there are generic npcs or npcs that repeat info but most characters have a unique story and the writing always surprises me. The story of Shady Sands, Vault City, San Francisco, Vault 15/13 and Sierra military base and broken hills makes the game feel special. It felt like a real passion project and it wasnt just some generic mess. Everything had a purpose and everyone had a backstory. The Fallout universe Takes place in a very interesting post-apocalyptic setting and i think the writters hit it out of the park with the story for this one. Its half-life levels of amazing in my opinion.

Now the ending of the game I had a terrible experience unfortunately and that along with the RNG is one of the reasons im not giving this game a 5/5. I wont spoil much so il try to be vauge. In the end there is a boss fight and you are forced to fight the boss there is no way around it as far as i could see for the path i chose. I was gonna fight the boss but around the area are 7 turrets which basically insta kill you in 1 turn despite having full hp. What youre supposed to do is hack a terminal and activate so the sentries shoot the boss. You needed a keycard for this however im gonna tell you right now, that was a complete fucking lie. My keycard did nothing and i tried absolutely everything, reloading the game, activating it with the keycard in my inventory and using science too activate it but nothing worked. I had science on 100% i had the keycard but it just wouldnt work and i still dont know why too this day, This forced me too battle one of the hardest bosses in video game history. And just when that wasnt bad enough well........im not sure who to blame but my game crashed atleast 10 times during the fight. Idk what happened idk what caused the glitch but the game just kept crashing, and that means your save file is corrupt so you have to start all over again, luckly i had 10 saves but that doesnt excuse the fact that i had to do the entire last mission all over too get too the fight. Each time i reloaded i lost sanity and it was just the most frustrating thing ever. It was so bs so annoying so rage inducing because it was something completely out of my control and it was basically just the game giving me a middle finger. But i kept at it. I had spent 29 hours up too that point and i wasnt gonna lose so i grit my teeth and despite all the bs i beat the game and recived the ending credits that were not disappointing.

despite one of the most rage inducing endings ive ever experienced and the bad RNG controls most of the time the game is still one of the best and its story & writing overshadow the flaws in my opinion. Frustrating at times but there was always a solution.

One of the best pc games of all time
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"No artist is ahead of his time. He is his time; it is just that others are behind the times."

Fallout 2 is unequivocally, one of the greatest games of all time. There are very few individuals who played through this entire monolith, and come away with it with the same opinion. There are many different reasons for it's brilliance, and every single explanation is perfectly valid. Black Isle Studios was fresh off the success of Fallout 1, and in one year, were able to craft one of the most legendary video games of all time. It shows their sheer talent as game developers; something we would see them do again with the release of Fallout: New Vegas. Throughout my play-through of this game, I am in complete awe of how marvelous this video game is.

Mechanics:


Fallout 2s game mechanics are why so many seem to have difficulty getting into this game. They're rather unorthodox to someone who is coming off New Vegas. I think that they are very much improved upon what Fallout tried, yet they still can be inaccessible to players looking for a more casual experience to the game. I will try to explain the game mechanics to help anyone get into this game, but if these don't sound fascinating to you, it might be in your best interest to skip out on this game.

Fallout 2 is a turn based strategy game. Each hit has a percentage to actually hit; making planning out your actions the most effective way to win your encounters. Most players recommend similar builds, since there is some imbalance to the games stats system. I recommend most builds only have 1 perception, luck, and charisma, since these skills are not very necessary. 10 endurance and agility is a must, and that leaves the rest to strength and intelligence.

I find the mechanics to be very engaging, and the randomness of it all creates more unease at times. Critical misses/Getting critically hit can mean disaster if you're not equipped to deal with things, and add some difficulty to even the most prepared individual. There's some instances where the combat becomes annoying, such as when there's enemies surrounding you and burst weapons tend to do small amounts of damage to multiple enemies; thus making the fight take forever. Though most of these complaints aren't that serious. Non-combat mechanics are great though, stuff like lockpicking, repair, sneak, stealing, and other things are RNG, meaning that you'll usually be able to succeed eventually, though some things are very difficult to do without high enough skill. I found it rewarding a lot of the time when I succeeded at a task. Usually the rewards are handsome.

With all the praise, comes the gripes. This game is not for casual players; who are used to Bethesda Fallouts; which offer a lot of convenience that modern RPG's have. You will mess up, and find you can't fix your situation. It is recommended to save often; before doing just about anything that you think will require precise actions to get your desired outcome. Players will also find that their builds matter, and like I have discussed before; there are skills that are objectively better than others, and are priorities for any player to level. Cities and towns are not very navigable if you're looking to do specific quests, and some people will have trouble finding certain areas that they need to find to do quests. Characters may sometimes be hard to find too, and I struggled to find characters and buildings a lot. Some areas have puzzles, and these are often very difficult too. Fallout 2 is very similar to old action-adventure games, and has become a lot easier to figure out how to play within the internet age. Everything dealing with the main quest is impossible to mess up if you do the wrong things, so if you don't care about getting every side quests outcome perfect, it's not a big deal.

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Fallout 2's plot is masterfully crafted, and is the primary reason that this game is so legendary. Everything you do affects the outcome of the story. The best part about it is that the game actually shows you your efforts throughout the game. Once you complete the game, you get to hear the narrator tell you the results of everything you did, and didn't do. It is a wet dream for someone like me who loves games that make you feel like you're affecting the world around you. It is a major reason I found a full Fallout 2 playthrough satisfying.

The game immerses you in a post-apocalyptic world, set a few decades after the events of the first Fallout. The world has changed drastically as time has passed, and you embark upon a new world. You need to find a Garden of Eden Creation Kit: powerful technology given to Vaults to rebuild vegetation when they were able to leave the Vault; to save your village from dying from famine. You get to experience the changes of the world before your own eyes as you try to find the GECK. Eventually; you run into the primary antagonists of the game; a fascist, post-government faction known as the Enclave. They become your biggest problem very quickly, and you realize you need to do everything in your power to stop them. Or else; humanity is doomed.

I encourage those not interested in politics to skip this paragraph. This game is notorious for its embracing of anarchism. Every positive outcome of the story centers around keeping anarchy alive. Examples of this include informing Marcus, a super mutant, of Jacob; who is racist, and plans to kill the mutant citizens in Broken Hills. Failure to do this results in them dying, and Broken HIlls dissolving in a much more sinister manner. Although it is bugged, and possibly not canon; you can save the intelligent deathclaws of Vault 13 a tragic genocide as well. This games embracing of anarchy, and powerful displays of character development are the biggest reasons why I felt uplifted after playing Fallout 2. Being able to persuade one of the Enclaves top scientists to release their genocide virus inside the oil rig to kill the Enclave was one of the most satisfying things I've ever experienced. The captain of the Valdez spilling all of the Enclaves plans and locations to you, explaining that he was once an Enclave member before realizing they were for "the rich, old bastards", and not the people, was also one of the most uplifting things I've experienced. The creators of Fallout are well-known for being socialists and communists; thus why they created this game. It shows the horrors of us continuing to repeat history as we are today. Why we should stop oppressive governments and markets from ruling the world. They don't care about us.

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No amount of words can explain everything great about Fallout 2. It serves as a testament to how much effort and love went into this game. There are so many amazing things I skipped out on discussing, so as to not pad this review out. It is still amazing to me how Black Isle Studios was able to develop this game in just a year, and how they was able to do this exact same thing with Fallout: New Vegas. While the gameplay may have aged, and is a relic of the pre-internet past, it's story continues to be one of the greatest plots ever conceived. It's overarching messages were heard very strongly by most who played it, and it exists in such a weird bubble. It is ahead of its time, but it really shouldn't be. People are still behind the times, and it only makes games like this that much more special. Fallout 2 is without a doubt, one of the greatest video games of all time. It changed my outlook on life, and I will forever love it for that.

PS. I recommend installing Killap's restoration project. It fixes many bugs with the game, and includes content that was cut just before the games release. You can download it here: https://falloutmods.fandom...oration_Project
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My favorite game ever made
A perfect role-playing game all around. Great story, world and characters. I've played this through probably 30 times and it never gets old. Shame they never made a true follow-up, just some "Elder Scrolls: Fallout Edition"s that are 3 and beyond. Oh well, the original 2 are still classics.
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Playing twenty years old game? Seems insane right? Not in this case. Yeah, graphic is ugly, UI is archaic, but it's still, even when you are playing it in 2018 a great game, which you will remember for a long time.

What make this game great? The number of ways in which you can solve quests. In this game you can be a paragon of virtue, but you can also be an evil slaver. You can also add to this becoming a drug-addicted pornstar or faithul husband. In which other game can you do all of that? Many games are being promoted by the notion that "choices have consequences" and I would be really happy if most of them would have this system at least on the level of Fallout 2. Because even now it's impressive, NPCs are really reacting differently towards you depending on your actions.

Thematically the game is less serious than the first game. I also think that the story is a little weaker although I appreciate making fun of "the chosen one" trope. There are also tons of pop culture references (for example to "Star Trek" or "Mad Max") and a lot of humor. So, comparing to the Fallout 1 I would say that the story is a little weaker, but the world-building is a little better

What definitely makes Fallout 2 the better game than its predecessor is the fact that this time it makes sense to have companions. In general they aren't constantly trying to kill you (yeah, I'm looking at you Ian!), they are mostly helpful in battle (besides Marcus with minigun, he is nightmare). Also there is option to move them if they block your path, it really saves the player a lot of nerves.

What I really don't like about this game it's its difficulty curve. The beginning is hard. For real. Although the temple, the second location you are visiting, was made as a tutorial, it could be pretty difficult to beat for unexperienced player. You have only a spear and you have to fight giant ants (obviously you can run away from them, but it's not easy to guess for beginners). Also when you are starting to explore the world, you still have no firearms (yeah remember about that "chosen one" trope), yet you constantly stumble on random encounters (they are definitely too frequent). But after this hard start it became much easier, from the middle of the game, the player doesn't face any real challenge, most fights are trivial. The difficulty curve is not good.

But it's a great game anyway, worth playing even now, if you can bear with old graphic and not user-friendly interface. Not many games from 1998 is fun to play in 2018. This one definitely is. And I suspect the things will stay same way in 2028.
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Morasse Fallout 2 2024-06-22T00:28:33Z
2024-06-22T00:28:33Z
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
NzArs Fallout 2 2024-06-21T07:54:49Z
2024-06-21T07:54:49Z
4.5
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
StoneCawthon Fallout 2 2024-06-20T21:55:32Z
2024-06-20T21:55:32Z
5.0
1
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
dog_petter Fallout 2 2024-06-19T12:46:23Z
2024-06-19T12:46:23Z
4.0
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
DrStatic Fallout 2 2024-06-19T03:52:21Z
2024-06-19T03:52:21Z
5.0
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
thepardunk Fallout 2 2024-06-19T02:50:13Z
2024-06-19T02:50:13Z
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
gibbber Fallout 2 2024-06-18T12:47:33Z
2024-06-18T12:47:33Z
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1
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
_cojiro Fallout 2 2024-06-18T02:57:42Z
2024-06-18T02:57:42Z
5.0
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
keyinlock Fallout 2 2024-06-17T18:31:42Z
2024-06-17T18:31:42Z
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
Megistotherium Fallout 2 2024-06-15T07:52:27Z
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In collection Want to buy Used to own  
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HorseRadishMan Fallout 2 2024-06-14T23:55:57Z
2024-06-14T23:55:57Z
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
riguyisfly Fallout 2 2024-06-10T18:51:28Z
Windows
2024-06-10T18:51:28Z
In collection Want to buy Used to own  
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  • SongityBoy 2024-04-20 00:54:50.824863+00
    The President of the United-fucking-States-of-America
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  • jake84 2024-04-21 12:34:26.882664+00
    The best one in the franchise. Some days my favorite game of all time.
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  • khaledo 2024-05-17 22:02:41.479938+00
    New Reno is fucking insane
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  • xDhotshot 2024-05-25 13:38:10.30535+00
    new reno is a poor idea with incredible execution
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  • ABG_GAMING 2024-05-28 10:31:36.984849+00
    welcome to camp navarro. so, you're the new replacement.... YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM, SOLDIER! WHERE IS YOU'RE POWER ARMOR?
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  • matejah666 2024-05-29 21:29:58.067383+00
    game made by legitimately insane people 10/10
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  • foxx 2024-05-30 07:00:37.37761+00
    Really just a walking simulator
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    • Voomy 2024-05-30 20:19:35.114468+00
      What?
    • TheRealJimMorrison 2024-06-04 06:56:05.758584+00
      Huh?
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  • Voomy 2024-06-08 08:14:32.038315+00
    Why is this the only fallout game where you can drive a car?
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    • bejesus 2024-06-11 04:22:28.637953+00
      Ran out of gas :(
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